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18/5/04 L'Amour et Psyché and other rare works by Pradier
(John Paul Bogart,
gallery Martin du Louvre, Paris).

Please excuse me for writing in English, my native language. Our gallery has, for many years, dealt in rare works by Pradier. Among those of special interest, which we would like to point out, are:

A group entitled Amour et Psyché

The group was alluded to in Statues de Chair, where it is listed as a: "Groupe, marbre. Non retrouvé. Réductions attestées."

The original plaster for Amour et Psyché was bought at the Pradier atelier sale by his pupil, Louis-Auguste Roubaud (1828-1907).

After Roubaud's death, the plaster was bequeathed to the
Musée de Brou, Bourg-en-Bresse.

The plaster, in the museum reserves, was in bad condition when I saw it last. It bears an inscription: pté de Roubaud, which caused it to be mis-catalogued as a work by Roubaud for over a century.


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Our bronze, whose dimensions and surface details corresponded exactly to those of the plaster, was apparently produced shortly after Pradier's death. It was signed Pradier, and bore the inscription: Roubaud prop taire. It was sold, through our offices, through a New York Gallery, and is now in a Swiss collection.

Shortly after the re-discovery of this bronze, another example came to light on the Parisian art market.

I signalled the presence of this cast to the musée de Brou, and they subsequently acquired the work.

So far as we are aware, Amour et Psyché, a model of exquisite beauty, is one of Pradier's very last. Thus, he did not have time before his death to realise a version in marble. We would like to find out if there is any evidence to the contrary.


Négresse aux calebasses

James Pradier,
Négresse aux calebasses.
Bronze, H. 31 cm.
Galerie Martin du Louvre, Paris.
Photo galerie Martin du Louvre.
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a) We currently own a version of the Négresse aux Calebasses in, to use your terminology, a "version impudique".

Our danseuse is completely nude, and the strange loin cloth that usually snakes up her leg is missing. Although Pradier's drapery is extremely aesthetic as always, we personally find the nude version lighter and more graceful.

The cast is of exquisite quality, measuring 31cm. It bears no foundry mark, but it is signed with Pradier's signature, not in block letters.

Could the cast be by Fontaine, I wonder?


b) We have had another nude version of the Négresse in the past (we found an example in 1993) measuring 43cm. The cast was beautiful, but less successful than the smaller one - on the heavy and clunky side.

Do you have any information about these nude versions which might shed any light on them?


c) We had a sublime small version of the Négresse about ten years ago. It was silver, and the accouterments were vermeil. It was exquisite. The cast is now in an Italian collection.


Jeune chasseresse

With regard to your
Chasseresse au Repos, we saw a small bronze version of it at Univers du Bronze about ten years ago.

We considered buying it, but didn't... for whatever reason. I believe that it is now in a Swiss collection.

As I recall, there was no founder's mark on the cast.

It may have been a réduction sauvage by Susse Frères, or taken from Pradier's plaster in smaller working dimensions. It is perhaps more plausible that Susse acquired a plaster in convenient dimensions from Pradier, whom they had under contract, rather than a large marble. This plaster may have been realised by Marchi, which would conveniently explain why there was a Marchi version in the atelier sale.

In any event, one thing is certain: the work exists in small dimensions.

Alain Richarme and Michel Poletti of
UDB might be able to provide you with more information regarding this cast.


La Naissance de l'Amour

We presently have a miniature version of La Naissance de l'Amour in very fine quality. The interior of the mussel-shell is lined with silver - a very happy device.

Some reference is made to this version in Statues de Chair in a footnote of the article concerning the work. The founder Thiébaut announced a version 9 cm high in both their 1852 and 1867 catalogues. A silvered mussel shell interior is alluded to only in 1867, in large dimensions.

I have the sneaking suspicion that our cast is earlier than 1867, and am wondering if the deluxe double-patinated version existed early on.

There is an odd gilt, multi-patinated example of the larger cast in the Van Gogh Museum, Amsterdam, but I am very suspicious of this version, which seems to me to be very late.

Do you have any precisions?


A cigar holder (Naïade) signed Pradier

We have found a cigar holder signed Pradier. The bronze has no founder's mark.

James Pradier ou Jean-Jacque Feuchère,
Naïade ou Femme sur un poisson.
Bronze, H. 19, L. 23, P. 10,5 cm.
Galerie Martin du Louvre, Paris.
Photo galerie Martin du Louvre.

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We once saw another example of the same work signed Feuchère. It depicts a beautiful and rather sexy Amphitrite riding the back of a fish with open mouth, which serves to hold the cigars. The erotic connotations are delightful. Do you know whether the work is by Pradier or Feuchère?

In the Lami, a plaster is listed in the Feuchère atelier sale: Une Nymphe sur un poisson.

Susse apparently bought this plaster, since they offer a porte-cigares by Feuchère in their 1860 catalogue under the title: Nayade portée sur un poisson.

Both titles correspond admirably to our work, and so I would imagine that the cigar holder is by Feuchère (but not necessarily a Susse cast).

Perhaps you have information in your records linking it to Pradier? A similar confusion exists with a similarly erotic Léda that alternately bears signatures by both Feuchère and Pradier.

It was a great pleasure to discover your site, and I'm certain that we will be communicating in the future.

 



17/6/04 Réponse D. Siler


Amour et Psyché

A very beautiful work indeed! Many thanks for the photo.

In a letter which can be dated 28 June 1850 to his praticien Charles Poggi, who was working at the time in Nîmes on Pradier's statues for the Fontaine de l'Esplanade, Pradier writes: "Pour le moment la poche est maigre et suis toujours sans travaux. Cela m'est égal car je pense toujours aller en Italie faire quelque chose - mon groupe d'Ulysse et celui d'Amour et Psyché." This is the only letter I recall in which Pradier mentions the latter group. It proves that he had not begun a marble version before that date.

The architect of the Fontaine de l'Esplanade, Charles Questel, in a letter to the Maire of Nîmes dated 5 October 1883, wrote: "Je m'empresse de vous transmettre les renseignements que vous m'avez fait l'honneur de me demander [...] concernant la construction de la fontaine de l'Esplanade, en répondant à vos questions dans l'ordre où elles ont été posées. [...] J'ai toujours cru et je crois encore que c'est l'État qui a fait don à la ville de Nîmes de la statue de la Poésie légère [Salon de 1846], mais je n'ai jamais entendu dire qu'une autre statue, celle de Psyché, dut être donnée par dessus le marché." Questel might be alluding to the group Amour et Psyché. He can hardly be referring to the standing Psyché shown by Pradier at the 1824 Salon and acquired by the State in 1825.

In the inventaire après décès, Pradier's heirs declare that they own "le droit de propriété complète pour la reproduction, soit en plâtre soit en bronze, des statuettes ci-après: [...] groupe de l'Amour et Psyché [...]"

The published catalogue of the 1852 atelier sale lists, among the plaster models: "7. - L'AMOUR ET PSYCHÉ. Groupe de 40 centimètres de proportion. Dans cette composition charmante, l'Amour sollicite Psyché, assise à côté de lui dans une pose d'une délicieuse candeur." This description clearly matches your bronze. Did it also measure 40 cm?

A second, smaller, sale took place in July 1855 in Pradier's former atelier at the Institut, then occupied by Lequesne. The marble works included "une statuette, la Baigneuse, ébauche fort avancée par Pradier et terminée par Lequesne, vendue sans droit 545 fr. - Une Psyché et une Danaïde, des mêmes auteurs, se sont vendues, la première 800 fr., et la deuxième 690 fr." (Revue des Deux Mondes, 15 septembre 1855, p. 322.) If this Psyché was L'Amour et Psyché, Lequesne must have executed it in marble after the original model. Judging from the price, it could only have been a statuette.

Guillaume Garnier, in his unpublished thesis on Pradier (École des Chartes, 1978), notes that one or perhaps different marble versions of the group appeared in the following sales:

– Vente du Cte de Paris, 12 nov. 1859, n° 2;
– Vente Cte de Septmaisons, Paris, 15 mai 1866, n° 210;
– Vente A..., Paris, 21 mars 1878, n° 29.

He also mentions a bronze cast:

– Vente Alessandro de Cetner, Rome, 10 May 1897, n° 147,

and states, without giving its dimensions, that a version in white marble signed Pradier belonged to a private French collection around 1920. He includes photographs of this work, one of which bears the following handwritten annotation: "Pradier / Coll. A. Parent." These photographs (or the work itself?) may belong to the Musée des Arts Décoratifs, as suggested by the presence on each of them of the stamp "A.D."

Can you tell me how you know that the plaster model bequeathed to the Musée de Brou was acquired by Roubaud at the atelier sale? Also, do you know in what year it was bequeathed to the museum, and whether the inscription "pté de Roubaud" appears to have been engraved on the original plaster or to have been etched on afterwards? This inscription and the one on the bronze cast may indicate that Roubaud had acquired the reproduction rights.

Garnier's thesis states that "Un des deux frères Roubaud, élèves de Pradier, avait exécuté un groupe [Amour et Psyché] en marbre d'après le modèle de Pradier. Il exposa son oeuvre à Blois en 1859 (cf. L'Artiste, LXII, p. 83); l'oeuvre ne figure pas au catalogue des sculptures des frères Roubaud établi par S. Lami. Cette œuvre en marbre est peut-être le groupe qui a figuré à une ou plusieurs des ventes signalées plus haut."

I am almost certain that your Roubaud and Garnier's are the elder brother, François-Félix Roubaud (Cerdon [Ain], 1825 - Lyon, 1876), who exposed for the first time at the Paris Salon in 1853 and who executed the relief of Pradier's La Poésie légère on Pradier's tomb in the Père-Lachaise. Pradier's son John remained in contact with both brothers but was especially close to the eldest. When the latter died, he wrote in his diary: "Mon pauvre Roubaud était mon meilleur ami. Il est mort à Lyon le 13 décembre 1876. François-Félix Roubaud aîné statuaire, élève de mon père, avait 52 ans accomplis. C'est le meilleur coeur que j'aie connu. Aux sentiments les plus délicats et les plus élevés de l'artiste, il joignait le génie de l'amitié." In another diary entry John notes that among his father's pupils, Roubaud aîné was "le meilleur de tous sans aucune exception, le seul digne de se jeter dans les bras de mon père." Roubaud executed a medaillon portrait of John when John passed through Lyon on his way to Algeria in 1874. Roubaud's sisters donated it to John in 1878. In the year following Roubaud's death, John composed an epitaph for his tomb in the Guillotière cemetery at Lyon.

L'Amour et Psyché is not exactly one of Pradier's very last works, seeing that he executed the model in or before 1850. But there definitely is evidence that one or more marble versions exist, as indicated above. However, they were most certainly executed after Pradier's death. There is no trace of a marble version before his death or in the inventaire après décès.


Négresse aux Calebasses


You ask if the cast could be by Fontaine. I believe you are referring to the maison Delafontaine. Bernard Metman's repertory (see below) mentions that they edited "un petit nombre des œuvres de Pradier, mais il semble bien que cette maison ne put commencer l'édition de Pradier qu'après le procès que le fils de Pradier intenta à la maison Susse en 1863, et après lequel la maison Susse abandonna la reproduction des œuvres de cet artiste." Metman goes on to list La Comédie légère (Fontaine Molière), Phryné, La Pêche, La Chasse, and Femme mettant ses bas, but not the Négresse aux calebasses.

Another "version impudique" measuring 45.5 cm was sold on 13 March 2004 at Soissons. As on your example, the signature is not in block letters. However, it bears the foundry mark "Cresson". All I know about the latter comes from Bernard Metman's alphabetical repertory of bronze editors published by Jacques de Caso in Archives de l'Art français (nouvelle période, tome XX, 1989, p. 175-218). The brief entry on him reads as follows: "CRESSON. Avait un magasin de bronzes d'art au coin du passage des Variétés, vers 1848. A signé une statuette représentant la Négresse aux calebasses de Pradier."


Jeune chasseresse


I have seen the UDB stand at recent Eurantica exhibitions here in Brussels but I had no idea that they once owned a reduction of the Jeune chasseresse. Nor did I know that this work had been cast in bronze. I will certainly try to find out more from the UDB. I'm certain the musée de Quimper, which recently acquired the marble, will be interested to know about it. As you suggest, it could very well have been produced by Susse Frères, who owned the marble version in the 1840's.


La Naissance de l'Amour

Unfortunately I know little more about this work that what is in Statues de chair. I have seen an example in a private collection but I don't recall whether the interior of the shell is lined with silver or not. I'll ask the collector. I will also ask him his opinion on the Amsterdam example, which I believe he has seen. It does appear to be very late.


Cigar holder (Naïade)


The Musée d'Art et d'Histoire in Geneva has a terracotta statuette entitled Femme sur un dauphin acquired in 1925 (inv. 1925-0027) which bears Pradier's signature and is dated 1844. However, according to the Garnier thesis the model was registered by Feuchère at the dépôt légal in 1844 (A.N., F18 48, "Femme sur un monstre marin"). Garnier also mentions that there is a bronze cast at the Musée des Arts déco. I don't recall having seen it in Geneva and unfortunately I don't seem to have a photo. If you need one, you can order it directly from the MAH.

Yes, Feuchère's Léda et le cygne is sometimes attributed to Pradier. According to Garnier, the marble and a reduction in bronze were part of the Richard Wallace collection.

 



18/6/04 Réponse John Paul Bogart


Gallery "Martin du Louvre"

Our gallery [is] located on the first floor of number 69 rue du Faubourg Saint-Honoré [...] We began our professional activities by specialising in academic art of the XIXth century, and we gradually slid into the XXth. This does not prevent us, however, from acquiring the occasional rare work from an earlier period, when we encounter it. We have always had a particular weakness for Pradier, who can often say more with a small statuette than most other sculptors with a great monument. [...]

After the publication of Statues de chair, there was a flurry of activity. Things have quieted down since then (as they have for art of the XIXth century in general). One sees far less of Pradier's work on the market...the upside is that whatever appears is usually affordable. [...]

For us, it was a revelation to discover your site, and we applaud your efforts.


Amour et Psyché

[Our example] measured 42 cm. The description [of the 40 cm. plaster model in the catalogue of the 1852 atelier sale] is perfect.

Psyche is seated demurely on a rock, modestly clinging her garment (beautifully draped, of course) to her bosom with lowered gaze. "Candor" is the appropriate word.

Cupid, holding Psyche's hand in his and her arm with the other, wraps his right wing around her in a gesture of protection. I find this detail to be deliciously successful and appropriate. It leaves no doubt in the viewer's mind that Cupid is a smooth operator - very smooth, that he is making his moves oh so gently, and that he has fully mastered the ways to a woman's heart. He has come a long way from his early career as chubby mischievous brat with twanging bow and stinging arrow.

Pradier portrays Cupid in the nude and in a state of sexual relaxation as if to underline his elegance and the correctness of his manners (as opposed to those of the Satyre et Bacchante where the genitals are concealed, but where the expressions of the protagonists, one leering and the other in ecstasy, leave little doubt as to their lust and the imminence of their union) and to dispel any fleeting doubts we may harbor. The sculpture Amour et Psyché is the tender representation of two young people in love, not the representation of two randy young kids. They will consecrate their union... with time.

The Satyre et Bacchante is about drunkenness and haste. Amour et Psyché is about sensibility, sensuality and the leisure to explore them.

It provides the only instance that I can think of in sculpture where a wing is used as though it were a "third arm", with admirable flexibility and "dexterity", if you will. I am reminded of the octopus and his tentacles. How do they manage to deal so precisely with all of those appendages?

As a general rule, the arbitrary convention of the wing, an improbable accretion to the human form, is very convincing in French art. Particularly so here, where it is artfully accorded a supplementary function.

[You ask] how [we] know that the plaster bequeathed to the Musée de Brou was acquired by Roubaud at the atelier sale. We believed that it was, since both the plaster and the bronze indicated "proprieté Roubaud". If not bought by Roubaud directly at the atelier sale, where it was offered, it was more than likely acquired by him (along with the reproduction rights) from Pradier's descendants shortly afterwards.

Roubaud was clearly proud of owning one of his master's last works, and took pains to produce it in bronze and marble. On all of the known examples of Amour et Psyché he indicates ownership of the model, to the point that the work was mis-attributed to him afterwards.

The inscription [on the Brou model] was sharply etched, suggesting that it was added to the plaster afterwards.

The plaster, although in relatively bad condition, was sharp and detailed, and there were visible piece-mould seams. It was clearly an atelier plaster by Pradier, not a surmoulage foundry backup.

I don't recall having compared Pradier's signature with Roubaud's inscription to see whether there was any difference between the two (something I should have done). In any event, Roubaud could have heightened an existing signature, or, if originally unmarked, he could have signed the plaster himself to identify its author when he apposed his inscription, since the plaster probably served as the basis for casting.

As I recall, it was [bequeathed to the Musée de Brou] in the late 1870's...but the museum will be able to provide you with exact information.

François Roubaud's death [in 1876] concords perfectly with the date of acquisition of the plaster of Amour et Psyché by the Musée de Brou. It stands to reason that the plaster belonged to François...unless it was given to the museum by Auguste in memory of his brother...

Once again, museum documents will clear up the mystery.

I recall that one of the Roubaud's gave himself the epithet, "Pradier's favorite pupil".

[You point out that] there is no trace of a marble version before [Pradier's] death or in the inventaire après décès. The same would appear to be true of the bronzes. I can state, having seen both known examples, that they were exquisitely done selon les règles de l'art.

If their production was not overseen by Pradier himself, they were executed, at least, by a good pupil who knew Pradier's work intimately and who took pains to "get it right." Given the close friendship between François Roubaud and John Pradier, it might be that the original plaster was given (not sold) to the sculptor before, during or after his having realised the work in marble and bronze.


Négresse aux calebasses.

I have the impression that Fontaine is another founder altogether, who is not repertoried in the Metman thesis, but then again, perhaps Fontaine and Delafontaine are one and the same...

Actually the information came from a footnote in Jacques de Caso's article in Statues de Chair (n° 3 page 259) for the model Danseuse africaine au tambourin, where it is stated that the "mouleur Fontaine sollicitait le dépôt légal de la Négresse aux Calebasses le 7 juillet 1840 ."

Apparently, working independently and unaware of the footnote, the author of the Répertoire sommaire of the Statues de Chair states that the model for the Négresse is "avant 1844."

In Isabelle Lemaistre's excellent article "L'Ascension du bronze" in the Louvre catalogue, Un âge d'or des arts décoratifs 1810-1848, she reproduces a depiction of the Négresse aux Calebasses (in bronze) placed on a mantelpiece in an engraving of Modes de Paris, published in 1837, tome 1, page 12, and further states that the model was expressly created for an editor in small dimensions, and was not reduced from a larger work.

It would be more accurate, then, to date the Négresse aux Calebasses to 1837 (or before).

One of the early editors of the model appears to have been the mouleur Fontaine, who realised the work in plaster (model MAH) and possibly in bronze.

We know that some editor (perhaps Fontaine) was producing a bronze version as early as 1837. Since Fontaine applied for a dépôt légal, it is clear that he obtained the reproduction rights from Pradier at a point earlier in time than 1840, and wished legally to secure his exclusivity in the wake of the model's popularity and commercial potential.

Where our cast is concerned, I equate the exquisite lightness, the delicate chasing, and the elegant facture of the bronze more with early Romantic production than with the heavy and less sensitive versions of Pradier's work produced by Delafontaine after 1865.

If Fontaine is in fact the same founder as Delafontaine, the Négresse that we possess is an earlier example of his work, stylistically closer to the mid-1830's than to the mid-1860's, and he managed to obtain the reproduction rights for that model 25 years earlier than Metman indicates.


Cigar holder (Naïade)

[Our Naïade] has the same signature and the same date [1844] [as the terracotta Femme sur un dauphin owned by the Musée d'Art et d'Histoire in Geneva.] These were clearly present on the foundry plaster, because one perceives that they were heightened after casting, not engraved after casting. Our cast is on the heavy side, but it has a very good nervous surface all the same.

The term "monstre marin" [in the title of the work registered by Feuchère] is closer to the truth than "dauphin". The beast, far from terrifying, is a large fish with gaping mouth, definintely not a dolphin. The Naïade is svelte, beautifully proportioned and sexy which pleads in favor of Pradier.

A similar confusion exists with the similarly erotic Léda that alternately bears signatures by both Feuchère and Pradier.

It is true that Léda's form is fuller and rounder than one usually associates with Pradier. I believe that it is stylistically apparent that the model of Léda is by Feuchère...but where the Naïade is concerned...I am less certain, and a certain confusion is justified.

Robert Frost's proposition that the world will one day end in fire or ice might be adapted to read that the world will one day end in Pradier or Feuchère.

 



21/6/04 Réponse D. Siler


Amour et Psyché

I enjoyed very much your description of this work, in particular your very apt comparison with the Satyre et Bacchante. One could also compare it with Canova's Psyché ranimée par le baiser de l'Amour. Have you seen Isabelle Lemaistre's book on the latter (RMN, coll. solo, n° 26)? I don't believe she mentions Pradier's group although she is surely aware of its existence.

The difference between the height of your example (42 cm) and the height of the example listed in the 1852 atelier sale catalgue (40 cm) is probably insignificant and the measures given in the catalogue may not be so accurate. Does the plaster in the Brou museum also measure 42 cm?


Négresse aux calebasses

I don't believe that Delafontaine and Fontaine were one and the same. Delafontaine was an édteur de bronzes whereas Fontaine was a mouleur. A far as I know, Fontaine only made plaster reproductions.

The Répertoire sommaire in Statues de chair, was prepared mainly by Claude Lapaire and by myself. Although we did know the footnote you refer to, we somehow failed to take it into account in dating the Négresse aux calebasses. We also knew the engraving from Modes de Paris. Guillaume Garnier had included it in his thesis, but without the publication date. I'm glad to learn that Isabelle Lemaistre's article (which I haven't seen) does give the date (1837). The Négresse therefore definitely goes back to 1837 or earlier. GG's thesis mentions the following examples:

– bronze, H. 31 cm, signed "J. Pradier" (?), fondeur Cresson (same fondeur as the 45.5 cm "version impudique" auctioned last March in Soissons), coll. Schnerb;

– bronze, H. 31 cm, signed "J. Pradier," fondeur Cresson, seen by GG in 1977 at the Marché Vernaison (porte de Clignancourt);

– bronze, H. ? cm, signed "J. Pradier," fondeur unknown, musée des Arts décoratifs;

– bronze, H. 54 cm., fondeur unknown, vente Laurent Richoud, Paris, 29 May 1886;

surmoulage Bonnet, H. 46 cm, MAH, Geneva.

GG also mentions examples of the Négresse au tambourin produced by Fumière and by Thiébaut, as well as some plaster and bronze examples identified only as Négresses in 19th century sales catalogues.


La Naissance de l'Amour

I asked my collector friend about his example and he replied as follows: "La moule a la même patine brun-rouge que le reste, sauf que la base (les vagues de la mer) est dorée." He only knows the Amsterdam example from photographs.


Cigar holder (Naïade):

Do you plan to order a photo of Feuchère's Femme sur un dauphin at the MAH in Geneva? I think it would be worthwhile to know if it's the same composition. 

 



22/6/04
Réponse John Paul Bogart


Amour et Psyché

When we were researching the work, we sent a summary to Mme Lemaistre. That summary may now be included in the Louvre dossiers. Yes, the dimensions of our bronze example were virtually identical to those of the Brou plaster (allowing for miniscule differences due to bronze shrinkage). It is clear that the plaster served as a basis for the bronzes.

By the way, regarding Roubaud's possible purchase of the plaster model of Amour et Psyché at Pradier's atelier sale of 1852, footnote n° 3, page 128 of Statues de Chair states that Roubaud purchased the sketch for Nessus et Déjanire at that sale. I suppose that we lept to the conclusion that he bought the plaster for Amour et Psyché as well, and it is a reasonable assumption, unless there is documentation to the contrary. Is there any documentation that states who actually bought it?


Négresse aux calebasses

We once had a magnificent bronze of Pradier's Homère et son Guide. We were convinced that it was executed in the early 1850's, since it had a cold varnish patina. The initials S.M. were present on the terrace, heightened after casting. We took these initials to be those of Salvatore Marchi.

From that bronze, and from other works we have had in the past, we learned that in certain rare instances a mouleur assumed the function of "editor in bronze." It stands to reason, since the mouleurs worked as regular intermediaries between artists and foundries to provide moulds for casting and foundry backup plasters. If a mouleur posessed an original plaster after an artist's death he was "in on the ground floor" to obtain the reproduction rights for the models he considered important or commercially viable. Even if he habitually produced plasters, as was the case with Marchi, he might occasionally have ventured into the more lucrative domain of bronze editions, when the occasion presented itself and if commercially warranted... and then again, an ambitious mouleur may have wished to improve his condition and to "move up in the world."

Fontaine evidently obtained (purchased?) the rights to the Negresse aux Calebasses for speculative purposes during Pradier's lifetime. It is clear that he made plasters of the model, but why not a few bronzes (unless his contract was limited exclusively to a plaster edition)? Somebody, after all, was producing bronzes of the Negresse aux Calebasses in 1837... Perhaps Cresson was the early editor... but Cresson appears to have marked his casts with his griffe.

Logically speaking, an unmarked bronze cast, when it is of superb quality, must of necessity be a foundry back-up model by the authorised foundry (when it has removeable clavets), a legally or illegally unmarked cast by the authorised foundry (as an example hors commerce produced at the request of the artist or his family, or simply pirated), or have been produced by someone who was not an editor in bronze per se. Such a bronze would clearly have to have been made by someone who knew the artists style intimately (as was the case with Marchi), and who "knew the ropes" of bronze production – well enough to oversee its execution and to insist on and to obtain superior results. A mouleur is a perfect candidate for the category of "occasional editor in bronze", since he is confronted with similar technical problems as a bronzier (even if plaster is softer than metal). A good mouleur must make positives of excellent quality from his moulds, to chase their surfaces, to remove traces of seams, and to finish the models in an elegant and appropriate manner. It will interesting to find out, then, whether or not Fontaine was the first editor to have exclusive rights to the Négresse, and if he obtained these rights in all media. Should both these prove to be the case, he clearly did not keep the rights for very long, because other well-known bronze editors produced the Négresse in their turn shortly afterwards, as you pointed out.


Cigar holder (Naïade)

Yes, I will order a photo of Feuchère's Femme sur un dauphin from the MAH in Geneva. From the sound of it, it is one and the same model.


Satyre et Bacchante

By the way, we recently purchased a terracotta of the Satyre et Bacchante. It is not unlike the Faune et Faunesse offered at the sale of the Château de la Bourdaisière, reproduced in your section Ventes, but as I did not see that one, I can not really ascertain the quality of its surface. Our terracotta was placed on a beautiful period gilt wood oval base with bead work, which clearly dates from the 1840's. There is just enough play between the base of the terracotta and the raised lip of the gilt socle to suggest that there was originally a cloche en verre over the sculpture to protect it from dust and that it was destined for a fireplace mantle. Certain details differ between our terracotta and the large marble in the Louvre. The Satyr's chest is imberbe. The beard does not grow beneath his chin, but from his lower lip downward. He does not have the "Robert De Niro" beauty mark on his left cheekbone. Otherwise, we find the facial features of both protagonists convincing, and amazingly close to those of the large model. James Pradier,
Satyre et Bacchante.
Terre cuite, H. 34, L. 32, P. 19 cm.
Galerie Martin du Louvre, Paris.
Photo galerie Martin du Louvre.
cliquez pour agrandir

 

The quality of the casting is superb – the imprint is perfect, the surface is extremely nervous (the two bodies are covered with traces of sculptural instruments), the Satyr's hair and beard and the Bacchante's grape-laden head are minutely heightened before firing, and the hands and feet are delicately rendered. Do you know anything about this terracotta edition, which seems to us to be a deluxe production? It is very well signed PRADIER dans la pâte en lettres bâton, in what appears to me to be Pradier's hand.


James Pradier,
Satyre et Bacchante (détail).
Terre cuite, H. 34, L. 32, P. 19 cm.
Galerie Martin du Louvre, Paris.
Photo galerie Martin du Louvre.
cliquez pour agrandir
 


11/7/04 – Réponse D. Siler



Satyre et Bacchante

Your Satyre et Bacchante is remarkably well preserved. Could it possibly have been restored or retouched? It would be interesting to do a minute comparison with other editions. Strange, the signature without the initial "J"... This definitely precludes, I believe, that it was engraved in the plaster by Pradier himself, who invariably signs "J. Pradier." By the way, I recently saw at a brocante in Brussels another example about the same size as yours in alabaster, with a broken arm grossly repaired and signed... "Clodion"!

The signature on your Naïade also has no initial "J", and the "P" in "Pradier" differs from the habitual one (on the photo it actually looks more like Pradier's usual "J", as if the "P" had been left out). I would be very curious to compare this signature with the one on the terracotta Femme sur un dauphin at the MAH in Geneva (inv. 1925-27), which also has no initial and is followed by the same date, 1844. As I mentioned in a previous e-mail, G. Garnier indicates that the latter work was registered by Feuchère at the dépôt légal in 1844 as a Femme sur un monstre marin (Arch. Nat., F18 48). However, I don't know how he could have been 100% certain - if he was - that the two were one and the same. Perhaps he had seen photos of both, although he doesn't include any in his thesis. You should definitely order the photo from the MAH. You might also be able to see, or obtain a photo of, the bronze example at the musée des Arts décoratifs.


Négresse aux calebasses

There seems to be a plethora these days of the Négresse aux calebasses. At least three have appeared in auctions this year and I just saw one in Paris at the Louvre des Antiquaires! The latter as well as one of the others were, like your example, déhabillées.

 



11/7/04 Réponse John Paul Bogart


Satyre et Bacchante

You ask if our Satyre et Bachante could possibly have been restored or retouched. No, I don't believe so. I believe that it is just in extremely good condition (and amazingly clean). I examined the terracotta under a lampe Wood. It is in pristine condition, aside from some of the tips of the leaves in the bacchante's hairpiece, some of which have broken off (but which in no way effects the lecture of the image). After close scrutiny, I can affirm that there are no visible repairs.

As you undoubtedly remarked during your visit, the base which we found with the work is also in practically perfect condition, except that the gold leaf has oxidized somewhat over time.

I suspect that this is one of the rare instances where an object simply lived on a mantelpiece for a century and a half with a glass cloche over it, and that, as a result, "time could not wither it, nor custom stale its infinite variety......," to misquote the bard.

It would indeed be interesting to do a minute comparison with other editions.

[Regarding the signature and the missing initial "J":]

The capital "i" with a dot over it and the forms of the capital letters resemble those of authentic Pradier signatures I have seen in the past (although I would be hard-pressed to say exactly which works I am referring to, or in which museums I saw them... Be that as it may). It could be that I am mistaken in this... I had a very comfortable feeling about this signature. There is no question but that it was done in the pâte fraîche, given the upraised edges of the letters.

The overall surface [of the work] is delicately "nervous." This does not necessarily show up in the photos. There are many traces of the scalpel and other sculptural instruments all over the work. The skin is rendered in a very realistic manner due to a subtle texture imparted by superficial hairline chasing.

Either the cast is an exceptional impression taken from exceptional moulds, or someone very talented oversaw the execution and heightened the cast before firing. I have the impression that the latter case is the most likely scenario.

The hair of both protagonists, the fleece on the satyr's legs, and the texture of the naturalistic base are so sharp that one can practically cut one's fingers on them. This deep and energetic chasing is in direct contrast with skin textures that are so artistically conceived and delicately rendered that it is quite clear that the chasing was done either by the sculptor himself or by a master ciseleur of the highest order. It cannot be the work of an ordinary artisan.

[Regarding the alabaster Satyre et Bacchante signed "Clodion":]

Good god! Clodion would never have dared to sculpt anything so overtly sexual!!!... Perhaps Clodion in alabaster brought higher prices than Pradier in alabaster in those days..... Sounds like an "Italian production," don't you think? [...] We once saw a version of a work by the American sculptor Hiram Powers: a "Bust of the Greek Slave." It was signed, in all impunity, with an Italian name!!!! I must confess, the quality of the realisation was excellent (perhaps the work was even pirated by one of Powers' apprentices in his very own atelier, pointed from an original plaster). It looked very good...unfortunately it was a counterfeit.


Cigar holder (Naïade)

[Regarding the missing initial "J" in Pradier's signature:]

This signature looks to me like a chaser's signature, because the letters correspond to those of the chaser's "script alphabet" which is commonly used on bronze casts, since the letters are easy to execute with a chisel. I have the impression, however, that the name "Pradier" was signed in the foundry plaster, and heightened after casting, because the signature is quite clear, deep, and the edges are neither sharp nor upraised. James Pradier ou Jean-Jacque Feuchère,
Naïade ou Femme sur un poisson (détail).
Bronze, H. 19, L. 23, P. 10,5 cm.
Galerie Martin du Louvre, Paris.
Photo galerie Martin du Louvre.       

Interesting correspondance between the date of the "Pradier" bronze and the date of the Feuchère dépôt légal [1844]. Perhaps Feuchère, inspired by the ingenuity (and success?) of Pradier's statuette, made his own version in haste, in hopes of finding an editor.

And, a sinister thought: perhaps Feuchère quickly patented the model (since Pradier had not) so that he could not be attacked for plagiarism.

There were problems with Peiffer in this regard (see Metman: Peiffer / Daubrée / Boyer). Sculptors were not entirely above pinching a good idea from another sculptor.

Stravinsky once said: "I do not know how to copy, but I do know how to steal."

We know that Feuchère's version was definitely a cigar holder as well, because it is listed as one in the Susse catalogue of 1860 (produced by the foundry, after they bought the "atelier plaster" from Feuchère's estate sale). There must be a few of these Susse casts floating around someplace....but where?

Even if [the Geneva example and the work registered by Feuchère] were one and the same, the above situation might apply...but who was the real author?????

I quote Stravinsky once again (in a thick Russian accent): "I can not vouch for two people having slept together unless I have been at the foot of their bed, have stood there watching them and held the four feet..."

It is very difficult for us to pronounce today, since we weren't there. But it is a fascinating art historical problem.

In any event, whether by Pradier or Feuchère, the Naïade is a very successful work of great charm, modeled by a brilliantly accomplished sculptor.


Négresse aux calebasses

I wonder if [the various examples you mention] were as good as ours, which is a veritable marvel of lightness and delicacy. I'd have to get a close look at them and hold them in my hands.

We had the Négresse twice in the past. A large, rather clunky nude version (sold at the Shepherd Gallery? N.Y.) and a sublime silver and vermeil version (but draped) in the small size, now in an Italian collection. The present cast is as beautiful as the silver and vermeil version that we had...but, of course, the patina is simpler and less luxurious... but it is nude, and extremely fine. It may ultimately be the most interesting version that we have found so far.

By the by, I would still like to know what the scoop is on the "nude versions." Nobody seems to have done any research on them. For example, was the nude version the original concept for the surtout de table of the duc d'Orléans? I should try to get a hold of Isabelle Lemaistre's article.

[...]


 
11/7/04 Réponse D. Siler

Further to my preceding e-mail, I just noticed in the MAH's documentation on their Femme sur un dauphin that its dimensions are nearly identical to those of your Naïade: H:19.5 x L:21 x W:11 cm. Yours are H:19 x L:23 x W:10,5 cm. This and the fact that both are signed and dated "Pradier 1844" tends to confirm that they are exactly the same work. The MAH documentation describes it as a "figure allongée sur un poisson, base ovale [...] exécutée par Feuchère, dépôt légal 1844."

 



12/7/04
Réponse John Paul Bogart


Cigar holder (Naïade)

"Exécutée par Feuchère" - hmmm. I wonder...

Could a Pradier model have been produced by a Feuchère foundry, or am I reaching? The dépôt légal was made under which name, exactly? Which Feuchère? There were many Feuchères, and they were all in the foundry business. Was the dépôt meant to establish authorship or to guarantee the rights to reproduction? Frankly, there is a great deal of confusion surrounding this work.

The model was produced by Susse (or at least, listed in their 1860 catalogue) under the name Jean-Jacques Feuchère - after the death of both Pradier and Feuchère.

Dead men tell no tales.

The plaster was bought by Susse at the Jean-Jacques Feuchère atelier sale...but does that necessarily mean that the latter sculpted it? Might he not have been friends with Pradier and exchanged presents with him, or have admired him and owned some of his works? (Does one know from the letters?)

As may happen in these cases: an artist stores works by fellow artists in his atelier along with his own. After his death, authorship is confused - sometimes for decades or even centuries.

Four major unknown paintings by Monet were recently confirmed by the Wildenstein Institute. They were found in the atelier of Monet's friend and colleague, André Barbier. These paintings had been attributed to Barbier for seventy-five years. The family had even put Barbier's cachet on them. Barbier was an excellent artist, and his style was closely akin to the style of Monet's later years. It took a good eye, intuition and scholarship to unravel the error and to re-establish their true authorship.

For what possible reason would examples of the Naïade have been produced signed "Pradier" and dated 1844, in the very same year as the dépôt légal? An explanation might be that the Naïade is, in fact, a work by Pradier but that it was produced by a Feuchère foundry. This straightforward explanation has the virtue of simplicity.

The alternative is a gothic tale, laced with intrigue, plagiarism and scandal.

I know which scenario would make a better evening of theater, but which is the correct one?

To be continued.....

 



12/7/04
Réponse D. Siler


Cigar holder (Naïade)

Yes, it's a hard one to unravel. I'll have to give it some thought, and maybe Jacques de Caso can shed some light on the matter. By chance I have just been re-reading an article by Marcel Roethlisberger on "Le thème de Léda en sculpture" (Genava, t. XXXV, Nouvelles série, 1987, pp. 65-89) which, after discussing Pradier's ivory and silver Léda et le cygne (executed in collaboration with Froment-Meurice), reproduces Feuchère's Léda with the following comments (p. 81):

"ll est fort probable qu'une autre Léda d'un artiste plus jeune et très proche de Pradier précède de quelques années la sienne: le petit bronze signé de Jean-Jacques Feuchère (1807-52) (fig. 29, 30). Cet auteur d'ennuyeuses sculptures décoratives monumentales, fit aussi de petites œuvres intimes et personnelles, dont ce bronze. Recourbée sur elle-même dans une pose précaire, appuyée uniquement sur ses fesses, un pied et une main, la tête penchée en arrière, les yeux fermés, Léda étreint le cygne dont le cou décrit une grande courbure30. La statuette, fort populaire en vertu de son modernisme étonnant et, en tout premier lieu, de son érotisme suggestif, existe en de nombreux exemplaires souvent signés à tort du nom plus important de Pradier 31.

30 H. Hawleg, 'Some intimate Sculptures of Feuchère,' dans: The Bulletin of The Cleveland Museum of Art, 1981, pp. 75-83. Il propose la date 1840-50. Une version biscuit, vendue à Londres en 1981 (Chistie's East, 14 nov., lot 178, repr.), est marquée à la base LH PARIS G. MEUR et signée Gracliez. Il existe aussi une version en marbre de cette pièce, de même grandeur, non signée.

31 Un exemplaire non signé, de même taille, au Metropolitan Museum of Art de New York, est publié par Janson (catalogue de l'exposition The Romantics to Rodin, Los Angeles, 1980), n° 184, sous Pradier, mais comme étant d'un artste plus jeune. L'attribution correcte à Feuchère n'était pas encore connue. Il existe en effet une certaine proximité stylistique avec le pett groupe de Léda par Pradier (fig.. 34)."
Jean-Jacque Feuchère
(ou James Pradier?),
Léda et le cygne.
Bronze, H. 18, L. 22,5, P. 12,5 cm.
Coll. particulière.        

It would be worthwhile to check out the article cited in note 30, which may have something on the Naïade. In any case professor Roethlisberger seems to have proof (although he doesn't give any here) that the Léda in question was by Feuchère, not Pradier, although examples with Pradier's signature are well known. The example he reproduces bears Feuchère's signature.

G. Garnier's thesis mentions that "la statuette [Léda] de Feuchère est parfois donnée à Pradier (par exemple au catalogue du mouleur Lorenzi)." He also mentions a bronze example in a private collection, signed and dated Pradier 1844. Again 1844! I see in the Janson catalogue that the Léda included in the Romantics to Rodin expo was lent by the NY Metropolitain and measured 17.1 x 22.9 x 12.7 cm., not too far off the measures of your Naïade and the MAH's Femme sur un dauphin.

As regards the relations between Pradier and Feuchère, the two were on friendly, if not intimate, terms. I recall at least one letter (not yet published) in which Pradier thanks Feuchère for having sent him some of his works and promises to give them "une place d'honneur" in his apartment. I'll try to find it and let you know what the exact wording is. See also letter 635 in my edition of Pradier's Correspondance, vol. III.

 



13/7/04
Réponse John Paul Bogart


Cigar holder (Naïade)

I knew that it was generally accepted as a work by Feuchère... I simply assumed that the historians in a position to have studied it properly, did so, and so the matter was laid to rest. Everyone seems to affirm with such utter conviction that the Léda is a work by Feuchère these days, that one does not even call it's authorship into question any more...perhaps wrongly so.

Frankly, the presence of examples signed Pradier needs a better explanation, perhaps, than that his was a "nom plus important."

A better theory would be that the Feuchère casts of Léda are late ones, produced after both sculptors' deaths, and that earlier ones were produced during Pradier's lifetime and are correctly signed...that the author model is in fact by Pradier, but that an unsigned plaster of it was found in Feuchère's atelier, and the authorship was falsely attributed to him by his descendants, a rather common occurrence.

It seems to me that the question of Léda should re-opened, although I am not the man to do it.

I was fascinated by the letters from Pradier that you cited, which suggests that the two sculptors respected each other highly, and exchanged gifts (at least, in one direction).

Incidentally, I don't really agree with Roethlisberger that Feuchère was simply a young minor sculptor of "boring decorative monumental works." His Satan (Salon of 1833) alone establishes him as one of the very best Romantic creators if the age (by the way, we currently have one of the most beautiful casts of it I have ever seen, double patina - green and brown, and the surface is a masterpiece of the founder's and chaser's art).

The brooding gothic splendor of Satan does not necessarily concord with the overt sinuous eroticism of Léda or the Naïade. A priori, that is more the domain of Pradier.

I suppose that Feuchère could have done works in the vein of Pradier (there is Baudelaire's reference to his being a touche à tout and an author of porte-allumettes among other things). He clearly admired him, and could have done them very well since he was a first-rate sculptor...but the matter should be looked into closely.

It all begins to hang together. Could not Pradier have confided two models to Feuchère to be cast in the family foundry in 1844, since it was among the best of the period (Pradier even praises his having "rendu d'immenses services a l'industrie par le bronze"), and Feuchère was one of the best ciseleurs of all time (we presume that our cast of Satan was executed by him, the chasing is absolutely incredible!!!!)?

Couldn't Pradier's original "unsigned" plasters have remained in Feuchère's atelier as a result, and then etc. etc.???... (see above).

 



15/7/04 Réponse D. Siler


Cigar holder (Naïade)

I spoke with my collector friend yesterday. He looked up the Naïade in Pierre Cadet's publication on Susse, which I don't have, and found it in both the 1860 and 1875 Susse catalogues, as follows (no illustrations):

- 1860, under "Porte-Cigares": "Numéro d'ordre 573. Hauteur 24. Feuchères. Nayade (sic) portée sur un poisson. 75 frs. En bronze."

- 1875: "Les Feuchères, leur Naïade sur un poisson (80 frs)."

Funny, the use of the plural.


Satyre et Bacchante

With regard to your Satyre et Bacchante, I am wondering if a Carbon 14 analysis or some other such test could be used to date it or the wood base.

 



15/7/04 Réponse John Paul Bogart


Cigar holder (Naïade)

You might tell your friend that ours is probably a much earlier cast [than the Susse casts].

First of all, it is signed Pradier and not Feuchère. It also has no founder's mark. Had it been a Susse cast, it would definetely have had one (and of course have been signed Feuchère).

I was pondering over the question of the relative heaviness of the Naïade, and I believe that it was intentional. Porte-cigares conceivably served the supplementary function of "paperweight," and so "weight," in this particular instance, would have been clearly a desirable quality.

The surface is excellent and detailed. I imagine that the foundry utilised a special technique to cool down the metal rapidly (perhaps immersing the mould in cold water. Only a guess...), thereby insuring a good impression.

It was a bronze foundry director who explained this fine point to me. It is for this reason that the "thinner" the walls of a cast are in general the better its quality - simply because the metal cools down more quickly and takes a better impression.


Satyre et Bacchante

Perhaps [a Carbon 14 analysis or some other such test could be used to date the wood base], but I wouldn't know where to have that done, nor how accurate such a test might be...I mean, I don't know if they can pinpoint very exactly. The margin of error might be for a 100-year period, which wouldn't help us very much.

I think that it is more accurate to judge from stylistic considerations, and given the heavy oxidation of the gilding, that the base is from the 1830's / 1840's (Louis-Philippe).

The people who know this sort of thing like the back of their hand are good professional "historical" framers - Montanari on rue Miromesnil. They can appraise the style and age in the twinkling of an eye. It is their
métier. If it would be of any help, I can show it to him.

 



15/7/04
Réponse D. Siler


I just ran across the letter in which I thought Pradier thanked Feuchère for sending him some of his (Feuchère's) works. Unfortunately my memory played a trick on me and the letter, undated, is addressed instead to Antonin Moine. Pradier was nonetheless on good terms with Feuchère, as you saw in letter 635. Sorry for the mix-up.

 



16/7/04 Réponse John Paul Bogart

Thanks for the information.

Poor Moine. A wonderful sculptor. He had a very sad life, and there is very little work extant.

Yes, Pradier respected Feuchère highly, and his contribution to the art of the bronze.

Regarding your previous letter, yes it is true that the reference in the Susse catalogue of 1875: "Les Feuchères, leur Naïade portée sur un poisson" is very odd indeed.

The book by Pierre Cadet is interesting because it publishes a number of contracts between the foundry and the artists with whom they worked, including several with Pradier.

 



29/7/04 Réponse D. Siler


Cigar holder (Naïade)

I just finished reading the book you loaned me on the Feuchères, Dynastie de fondeurs. On the next-to-the-last page, in Jean-Jacques Feuchère's Chronologie, I find this: "1853. Vente J.J. Feuchère, 8-10 mars. (...) N° 80: Une Nymphe sur un poisson, modèle pour un porte-cigare." Don't you think this definitely confirms J.J. Feuchère's paternity?

You say that the work is signed Pradier and not Feuchère. However, there are a number of examples of works which are known NOT to be Pradier's but which bear his signature. And of course, Pradier's name on a bronze has little to do with the date it was cast

When you think about it, this porte-cigares could hold only one cigar at a time. Doesn't that imply that it was used to hold a lighted cigar in between puffs? Something of a fire hazard if it was also being used as a paperweight!

[The fact that thinner walls make for a better impression] seems to make sense but if the walls of the porte-cigares are thinner, I wonder what makes it so heavy.


Satyre et Bacchante

I have absolutely no experience in the matter [of dating wood or gilding] but is it really possible to date gilding so accurately simply from it's appearance? Is there a visible difference between a gilding which is 150-160 years old and another which is, say, only 100 years old? It would be interesting for your clients if you could refer to an appraisal of the type you mention. But did you receive the page I sent you concerning a laboratory in Milan which does spectroscopic analyses of wood (
http://www.spectroscopyforart.com/en/index.htm)? Might be worth pursuing. They claim to be pretty accurate.

 



29/7/04 Réponse John Paul Bogart


Cigar holder (Naïade)

[Does the presence of the cigar holder in the 1853 atelier sale inventory confirm Feuchère's paternity?]

Nyet. We can't rule out the possibility of n° 80 having been mis-attributed at the atelier sale. Both Feuchère and Pradier were dead in 1853. Nobody would have bothered to worry very much about a little decorative object like the Naïade.

How do you explain the existence of early examples signed "Pradier"?

Our Naïade has a cold varnish patina (it should be clear by the nature of the wear and portions of the varnish which have blackened with time, even in the photographs we sent you). Cold varnish patinas were abandoned in the late 1840's, in favor of oxide patinas applied with heat, which were much more stable and robust. Cold oxide patinas existed, of course, since the Renaissance (if not the Roman times), but they were very long and impractical to apply (the object was immersed in wet sawdust for days).

I am already aware that a version of the Näiade was sold at the Feuchère atelier sale, probably directly to Susse, who subsequently made a posthumous edition of it (signed "Feuchère"?). The atelier sale inventory is documented in the Lami dictionary as well. But I am not at all sure that the Naïade (in plaster, bronze, or whatever) in this sale was signed. This is precicesly where all of the confusion could have crept in.

If the Naïade was a work by Pradier and an unsigned version had come into Feuchère's hands (either as a gift, or because Feuchère made a bronze editon of the model and retained the original plaster, or a foundry plaster, or an example in bronze in his atelier) and it was later mis-attributed, this would provide the simplest and most direct explanation of the differing signatures. Occam's Razor.

If you really wish to erase all my doubts that the Naïade is by Pradier, you will have to show me an early example (either with a founder's mark that conclusively dates the cast, or an example with a cold-varnish patina) signed Feuchère, then we'll really have to scratch our heads to figure out what's going on.

So far, I am convinced of the following:

1. That my example is an early cast signed "Pradier," probably done during his liftetime, since it has a cold varnish patina.

2. That some sort of Nymphe sur un Poisson, modèle pour un porte-cigare (signed? unsigned? medium? dimensions?) was sold as n° 80 of the Feuchère atelier sale, when both Feuchère and Pradier were dead.

3. That a posthumous edition was realised of a Nayade portée sur un Poisson, 24cm (a larger dimension than ours, which is only 18 x 21cm!!!), announced in Susse catalogues, given to "Feuchères" or "les Feuchères," and presumably signed "Feuchère."

An incomplete reference in a nineteenth century atelier sale catalogue, without indications of dimensions, identifying marks, nor medium of the work in question, just doesn't cut it for me regarding paternity. It's too flimsy.

By the way, the person or persons, who affirm in passing Feuchère's paternity of the Naïade, don't seem to bother to go into any of these bothersome little details.

I would like to know how, exactly, Feuchère's dépôt légal reads, which might clear up the matter.

[You point out that "there are a number of examples of works which are known NOT to be Pradier's but which bear his signature."] Yes, but were they done during Pradier's lifetime, or are they posthumous? I would be interested to know more, regarding this point.

When a forger created a spurious work, as was often the case with Boucher, Corot or Thomas Couture, the forgeries were usually done after the artist's death, when it would be difficult unequivocably to establish authorship (the "Dead men tell no tales" syndrome), and to avoid legal sanctions.

Was this the case with Pradier forgeries, or was he plagued by them from the outset?

[Concerning the weight of the cigar holder:]

The walls of this cast are not particularly thin (which is why it's heavy), but the surface detail (the imprint) is very sharp and nervous all the same. This suggests to me that the founders found an ingenious technical solution to the problem of "slow cooling and bad imprint." The solution may have been "fast cooling," as described above.

The fishes mouth is deep and completely lined, which also adds a certain amount of weight to the object. The extra weight might have been a desirable quality if the porte-cigares served also as a paperweight.

In any event, the Naïade was clearly an object for a man's desk, destined for the privacey of a bureau. It was meant to be admired, contemplated and, if wear on the patina is any indication, dare I say, fondled? It was "erotic" in nature, as are Pradier's erotic paperweights with reclining odalisques.

It is unlikely that the Naïade, with her firm breasts, legs akimbo and looking every bit a marine hussy, was an object that a man would have placed in a domestic setting, what with his children and wife around.

I gather that Pradier's paperweights are often unsigned for this reason as well. Strange as it may seem to us now, they were considered shockingly pornographic in their day.

The Greek Slave (1848) by Hiram Powers comes to mind. It was a simple and rather pedestrian nude, but it made a sensation in America and England. It was exhibited in a private room open only to men. Women and children were not admitted, their eyes sheltered from the girl's unwilling, if wanton, nudity.

It is only the drama of Missalonghi and the "purity and whiteness" of the marble that saved the work from being considered pornographic. Of course, the plight of the poor Greek girl (with a head based on the Venus de Milo) in chains also played a role, as mythological subject-matter also served as a pretext, in enabling the sculptor to show a woman "naked as a jaybird."

The nipple-less bust version was in practically every great royal collection in Europe. Why is it that women were allowed to have breasts (even to show them on occasion) but no nipples?!


Satyre et Bacchante

[You ask if there is a visible difference between gilding which is 150-160 years old and another which is, say, only 100 years old?]

Probably, because 60 years of oxidation does make a difference, but this would be difficult to quantify exactly. It depends on how the object was conserved, whether it was exposed to light or not, humidity, dust and dirt, etc.

The gilding [on the wood base] has never been cleaned and the patina looks absolutely right for the 1830's or '40's.



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